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Been with a Company for 20 years and got two advanced degrees but not one advancement...


Aaron Nunez Kyle, TX

I have worked for a company for 20+ years and have not gotten one chance for advancement. Through the years it was suggested to get a degree and I have invested in myself to do this but to no avail. Recently I looked to see how many positions I applied for and say over 360 management positions and not one interview.

27 April 2020 4 replies Career Advancement



Jerry Welsh Middleville, MI

I took a peak at your LinkedIn profile and your TAG line is not doing you any favors in the job search market. Many say the "active seeking" part sends a negative signal to new companies and also a negative message up the current organization.
First decide on a career, do you want to become a project manager, if so do some research and build your LI profile around that career. First the recruiter needs to find you matching their career, second they look for some basic qualifications, i.e. how many will want a PMP certification, thirdly rather than telling a story about your education, give them examples of projects you lead with out comes #$%. Lastly go down to your work history and give example of the project management success stories, again with numbers. It might not hurt to conduct some Informational Interviews with project managers, even though it has been a while, tell them you are a veteran looking into a new career and seeking information. What you goal is to find out what the metrics are that project managers are measured by, what are the keywords. Also be sure and find some local professional associations to join and become active either in face or on line via LI or Facebook. Professional associations are a great place to network. Make sure you tailor your resume to match a position versus a general resume that could apply to general management positions. You might be surprised once you drop the "seeking new opportunities"and clean up your profile to match some of your current employer positions, you might get a call.
Thank you for your support and sacrifices. God Bless

27 April 2020 Helpful answer


David Akre New York, NY

Pretty easy answer - get a new job. Once you do that, your company will probably be interested in keeping you but tell them to take a hike.


Aaron Nunez Kyle, TX

Mr. Wynn
The degrees are toward my line of work but can be used elsewhere. Just more recently things have taken a negative path at the company. My goal was to become a PM for the company and both degrees are in PM.
Recently I am "putting myself out there" and looking hard for new chances. I am working on my Linkedin and resumes.


Asa Wynn San Antonio, TX

Aaron, good day to you.

Understand the frustration of hoping a company internally recognize your efforts in achieving higher learning (along with consistent efforts in the job). Without knowing positive attributes you may have demonstrated in the workplace for management's consideration to a higher position, I would ask what position you currently hold?

At times, people can get "stuck" in certain positions unfortunately. Some would advocate against this ... but I know this very well. I retired from military and was employed in a lower position than I had when leaving the military--hoping they would see my attributes and would accelerate me to a management position. But...being good in the current position was what they needed, while they kept promising to move me to the supervisor position. After a year of "waiting" and taking additional responsibilites, I left the company and went into consulting positions.

In other words: Would say, "don't sell yourself short," and do not feel you need to be faithful to the job (unless there are other considerations, such as health plans/other compensations accrued during your time there). You worked for that higher learning, and showed your dedication with the company.

With that:

- Are the degrees in relation to the positions you are applying to?

- have you discussed you desires to move up in the company with management (thru annual appraisals/evaluations the manager would normally have a one-on-one with the employee)?

- In relation to my own story, would ask if you have been in the position for 20-plus years ... have you started "putting yourself out there" to other companies?

- Are you currently "out there" with an updated Linkedin profile? Keep in mind, some of my positions were based on a recruiter/talent rep finding me on Linkedin (to include ability to apply for jobs with just your profile content alone)?

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