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Can any one help a highly educated veteran find a first non-military job?

Veteran

Peter Kozelka Oak Park, IL

Greetings ACP members,
I spent 10 years as an intelligence officer in the US Navy but can not get any civilian employer to show interest in me due to lack of civilian work experience. I have an MBA from the University of Cambridge, an MS in Finance from Washington University (in St. Louis), and a Bachelor's from Georgetown.
I find that at interviews, I generally loose out to non-veterans with far less experience and less prestigious educations as they have civilian work experience. What employers are willing to hire veterans like me? Ever civilian HR rep I talk to says they can't imagine it being difficult for me to find a job, but no one is willing to give me a chance.
Thanks,
Peter

1 July 2015 8 replies Military to Civilian Transition

Answers

Advisor

Robert Jurasek Hollywood, FL

Dear Peter,

If you are interested in Federal employment, go to www.usajobs.gov > select “Federal Employees” as this often includes applicants with Veteran’s preference > click on Advanced Search > click on Location and enter Saint Louis, Missouri > scroll to the bottom of the page and click on Search Jobs.

The search returned 159 job announcements for the St Louis area. While many of the announcements will not apply to you, some might be of interest, like the one for Counter Intelligence Officer at the National Geospatial- Intelligence Agency (NGA).

By creating an account on USAJOBS.gov, you can save multiple job search engines and receive daily emails with newly posted job announcements. Please remember that federal résumés are often six to eight pages long. Feel Free to contact me if you need more info.

Thank you for your service and good luck with your job search!

Sincerely,
Bob Jurasek

5 July 2015 Helpful answer

Advisor

John (Casey) Roach Greenwich, CT

If you would like me to try and render some thought, please send me your CV so I can understand where your naval experience may be appreciated. Were you in combat; where and when? I was an intelligence officer as well albeit during the Vietnam era. I served in Korea..

2 July 2015 Helpful answer

Advisor

Susana Moraga Hayward, CA

Peter,
Thank you for your service, and yes through that you have significant experience

I wonder if part of your problem could be the way you discuss your qualifications. It sounds like you are getting interviews but not the job.
For many employers, you need to specifically use the language in their field, you may be successful in doing this on your resume but not the interview. You need to sound like you are already a part of the organization and describe your experience in their language.
The degrees allow you to compete, but don't make you competitive, you need to discuss both on resume and in interviews how you have used the skills you have that the employer wants.
Have you joined relevant LinkedIn Groups and done professionally networking? Your online presence is also important.
Best,

1 July 2015 Helpful answer

Advisor

Marc Julius Wayne, NJ

One large firm with offices in your area apparently gives special consideration to veterans, and your background fits what they are looking for. The company is Fidelity Investments. Go to their website and click on career opportunities. Good luck.

Advisor

Kit Lancaster Chicago, IL

What do you want to do? If you where to write a civilian MOS what would it be? Do you have constraints, limits or a focus for your search? What organizations and networks do you have exposure? Do you have a recuiting or placement company working for you?
Thank You
Kit

Veteran

Peter Kozelka Oak Park, IL

That would certainly be the case if the problem is with me interviewing. Actually, ever time I have had an interview, I have made it to the final round. My problem is more that I can not find any company willing to interview me.
Peter

Veteran

FB Zgorski Los Angeles, CA

Create a USA jobs account with more than one version, an admin, security , logistic.. etc. using your VRA status, send it all over the US for advertised federal jobs. When your resume is referred to various positions, interview even if you do not want to relocate. This was my strategy after the military. Went from WG2 to GS 11 in 4 in 4 years. Being able to relocate was significant in being promoted and trying new positions.

Advisor

Chuck Burger King Of Prussia, PA

Peter, first off, thank you for your service of course!

While not initially able to weave your specific experience as an intelligence officer with your educational background into a specific recommendation, the easy advice to offer is that you should beat a path directly to the door of Boeing there in St. Louis. They and any other Aerospace and Defense (A&D) companies are prime territory for veterans seeking transition to the civilian workforce. If geographical preference is wide open, the opportunities are almost endless, especially if you can add the USG and related support contractor positions available in and around D.C. The same USG and support contactors can offer opportunities nationwide as well. Those support contractors include the likes of Booze, Allen, Hamilton (BAH), CACI International Inc. (CACI), Rand, and Tecolote Research, Inc. (TRI) to name a few. One related outfit is actually veteran owned and operates in basically the same space. They are SNA Software LLC which is a veteran-owned company with corporate offices in Orlando, Florida and strategically located offices in San Carlos, CA, Denver, CO, and Washington, DC.

I would caution placing too much emphasis solely on the educational side of your portfolio. While it certainly is invaluable, multiple related degrees, assuming the Bachelor's from Georgetown is also finance related and non-technical in nature, is limited in the overall evaluation equation. As example, what I generally see in many job posting requirements state something like “10 years of experience with a BS, 8 years with a Masters…”I am being general but I am certain you understand.

Peter, I hope this information can kick start a revamped search resulting in a position worthy of your experience and education.

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